
The
Cockpit Panels
- What
hardware do I need to operate these panels?
- Do
I have to do my own wiring?
- What
are they made of?
- What
do you mean when you say some panels come "without hardware"?
- Do
you offer pieces that are already wired?
- Do
your cockpit panels come assembled or as kits?
- Do
the panels come with any form of case or housing?
- Do
the glareshield panels match in terms of vertical height so that they
can be joined nicely together?
- What
flight simulation programs do your panels work with?
Hardware
Specifics
- Can
you list the EPIC components I would need to buy?
- Do
your EFIS panels have the prototypical inner/outer dual-knob switches
on them?
- Does
the Boeing-style MCP's HDG switch have the extra 5 positions on it for
bank limit?
- Do
I need a rotary encoder/decoder card?
- Why
do you not include the V/S dial, the disengage bar and the digital readouts
on the Boeing-style MCP?
EPIC
Programming
- What
is the difference between EPIC and EMDA?
- Do
I really need one of your EMDA cards?
- Can
you do the programming of EPIC for me?
- How
truly difficult is it to set up the wiring for the systems you offer?
(Is it possible for an individual with little electrical experience
to accomplish this?)
Ordering
- How
can I place my order?
- How
do I pay for my order?
- Can
I pay by Credit Card?
- Do
you sell to Europe (and elsewhere overseas)?
- What
shipping options are there?
- Do
you have a catalogue?
Also
see our Products Page for further information
about specific products, panels and wiring boards.
The
Cockpit Panels
1.
What hardware do I need to operate these panels?
The
EPIC system by R&R Electronics
is recommended. We can provide these EPIC components as part of your
order if you desire.
Here
is the basic configuration you will want to have in order to start your
cockpit. (Additional modules may be required to operate some of CSI's
cockpit panels, and they are listed here to make your ordering easy).
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The Basics:
- EPIC
card
- EXPANSION
module to control switches
- OUTPUT
module to control lamps and LEDs
Plus...
Boeing-style
MCPs also require that you have:
-
ROTARY ENCODER module
-
SEVEN-SEGMENT DIGITAL DISPLAY module
Boeing-style
EFIS also require that you have:
-
ROTARY ENCODER module
-
SEVEN-SEGMENT DIGITAL DISPLAY module
Airbus-style FCUs require that you have:
-
ROTARY ENCODER module
-
SEVEN-SEGMENT DIGITAL DISPLAY module
Airbus-style EFIS panels require that you have:
-
ROTARY ENCODER module
-
SEVEN-SEGMENT DIGITAL DISPLAY module
Airbus-style Rudder Trim panels require that you have:
-
SEVEN-SEGMENT DIGITAL DISPLAY module
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2.
Do I have to do my own wiring?
Yes, you will have to wire the panels yourself. We provide cockpit panels
and the switches, rotary encoders and buttons that go with them. It
is up to you to wire these buttons and switches to your flight simulator,
using an EPIC card or similar
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3.
What are these cockpit panels made of?
The panels are made of 1/16" (.0625" or 1.58mm) plastic. They are very
tough, but also flexible. This means you will need a frame of some sort
to mount them in. Many of our customers are using a wooden frame in
their cockpit enclosure, and the panels work very well. One or two vertical
braces are desirable for a Boeing-size MCP, as an example.
Because of the design using plastic, the panels can easily be back-lit.
Just add a few 12 volt bulbs and some white diffuser, and you're all
set.
The letters are engraved from the back, and glow white when illuminated.
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4.
What do you mean when you say some panels come
"without hardware"?
We
sell most of our panels fully equipped with switches, knobs, rotary
encoders and so forth. But some people prefer to build-it-themselves.
In those cases, we offer just the plastic panel, with pre-drilled holes,
windows, and lettering. It is up to the user to find switches and buttons
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6.
Do you offer pieces that are already wired and
ready to go?
It
would be quite difficult to offer a fully wired and integrated panel,
because each person has a different setup for their EPIC card and different
flight simulation software on their computers. A user may already have
other switches assigned to certain module rows, and our choices for
programming switch numbers could conflict.
We should point out, though, that wiring it up yourself isn't a really
big hassle. Once you have your EPIC card up and running and you've wired
one or two switches, you will be able to do your own wiring with no
difficulty.
It seems like a daunting task at first, but the learning curve does
go quite smoothly, even though it is a bit steep for the first day or
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5.
Do your cockpit panels come assembled or as kits?
For the most part, assembled. If you specifically want all of the parts
shipped loose with the panel, we can arrange that too. But we usually
ship them with all of the parts in the panel. TOP
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6.
Do the panels come with any form of case/housing?
We can provide metal cases at an extra cost. Contact us for details
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7.
Do the glareshield panels match in terms of vertical
height so that they can be joined nicely together?
Yes.
They will line up as in the real aircraft. We use actual dimensions
in creating these panels. And we take pride in our accuracy. It's what
makes our cockpit panels stand out in a crowd.
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7.
What flight simulation programs do your panels
work with?
Because these panels are provided with switches only -- no hard-wired
parts -- you could use them with practically any software you have at
hand. You'd require an EPIC card,
of course, to convert the on/off action of these switches into keypresses
that your computer would recognize via its keyboard buffer. TOP
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Hardware
Specifics
1.
Do your EFIS panels have the prototypical inner/outer
dual-knob switches on them?
The dual concentric rotaries are very hard to come by, and very expensive
to duplicate. We do not use them in our EFIS panels (their function
would be limited anyway in most flight simulation software, and it's
just not worth the HUGE increase in price we'd need to charge if we
included them).
Grayhill makes dual concentric
encoders, for anyone who is interested in trying them. TOP
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2.
Does the Boeing-style MCP's HDG switch rotate
as well as having the extra 5 positions for bank limit?
It
just rotates, and there is a pushbutton feature (the whole knob pushes
in). Adding the five-position bank limit function would have made the
whole panel about $200 US more expensive! We figured it wasn't worth
it, considering that most flight sim software doesn't even offer bank
protection.
If you really do need that function, you could perhaps purchase a dual
concentric rotary, and wire it in place of the rotary encoder we provide.
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3.
Do I need a rotary encoder/decoder card?
Yes, if you want to use the rotary encoders that come on our EFIS and
MCP panels. They are encoders, as opposed to rotary "switches".
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4.
Why do you not include the V/S dial, the disengage
bar and the digital readouts on the Boeing-style MCP?
Because the V/S dial and the disengage bar have an unusual mounting
system (one is a rotary encoder that has to be mounted on a right angle,
and the other requires two toggle switches mounted at just the right
angle behind the panel so the diengage bar works properly), we opted
to leave them out for the time being. It would have added significantly
to the total cost of each panel. And we know your primary goal is to
get realism at a reasonable price.
We are still working on getting the mounting systems worked out, but
until we do, we're leaving it up to the end user to decide how they
want to accomplish the same results. I've seen folks use a self-centering
toggle switch for the v/s application and it works fine as an interim
measure.
The reason we don't provide the digital displays as part of the panel
itself is that it would add a fair bit to the cost of the panel, and
everyone seems to want something different in terms of the colour (red,
amber, green) and size of the digits they use. So standardizing was
difficult.
We do sell a tiny 7-segment display
mounting card to make adding your own .30" digital displays a whole
lot easier. And if you are having difficulty finding the LED displays
themselves, we can provide them too.
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EPIC
Programming
1.
What is the difference between EPIC and EMDA?
EPIC
will convert toggle switches and button presses into keystrokes that
your software can interpret. For example, flick a toggle switch to the
"ON" position, and EPIC can be programmed to output the letter "G" to
your computer just as if you had pressed "G" on your keyboard.
EMDA is a breakout card that makes wiring easy. It does nothing
on its own. But if you are wiring up the EPIC, it will make your life
very, very simple by comparison to hand-wiring. TOP
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2.
Do I really need one of your EMDA cards?
Only if you've bought yourself an EPIC card and are wondering how to
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3.
Can you do the programming of EPIC for me?
It would be far too difficult for us to try to create a one-size-fits-all
set of EPIC code that would work for every one of our customers. We
can point you in the right direction in terms of doing your own programming,
though, and we're always happy to help as much as we can. Our Resources
page is a good place to start. Once you have started the programming
yourself, you will find that it is not nearly as hard as you imagined.
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4.
How truly difficult is it to set up the wiring
for the systems you offer? (Is it possible for an individual with little
electrical experience to accomplish this?)
You
will have no problem. The basic switches and lights are very easy to
do, once you get the hang of EPIC's system. Give yourself a day or two
to figure things out, and I guarantee you'll be wiring switches and
lights to everything in the house. It's really addictive once you see
it working and get into writing the bits of software code to make the
switches do what you want them to do! TOP
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Ordering
1.
How can I place my order?
You can either email us your order directly (), or use the special forms we have provided on
our web site. If you prefer to keep a hard copy for your own records,
you can print off the order form once you have filled in the details
on your screen, and then fax the copy to us at +1 (306) 352-0488.
If
you e-mail us your order, be sure to clearly list the items you are
ordering, each on a separate line, along with their prices.
In any case, we will confirm your order by reply e-mail, so your return
address must be valid. If you do not hear from us for several
days after placing your order, please send us a follow-up e-mail message
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2.
How do I pay for my order?
We will
e-mail you an invoice total so that you can arrange payment. We gladly
accept VISA and MasterCard credit cards, and also offer several options
for our Corporate clients:
- VISA
- MasterCard
- US dollar
cheque drawn on a US bank
- US dollar
international money order (available at Post Offices and banks in
many countries)
- Bank-to-bank
wire transfer
If you
are making a wire transfer, we will provide our bank details in a format
you can print and take with you to complete the transfer.
Need
to convert US Dollars into your local currency? The
Universal Currency Converter is useful. TOP
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3.
Can I pay by credit card?
Yes.
We gladly accept
and
.
For
the convenience of our customers, we bill in US dollars ($USD) and charge
your credit card when your order is ready to ship, so there's no advance
billing, weeks ahead of delivery.
We
also offer several options for our international customers:
- Bank-to-bank
wire transfer
- MoneyGram
(same-day or next-day service, and available at American Express and
other travel agencies around the world)
- US dollar
cheque drawn on a US bank
- US dollar
international money order (available at Post Offices and banks in
many countries)
If
you are making a wire transfer, we will provide our bank details in
a format you can print and take with you to complete the transfer.
Need
to convert US Dollars into your local currency? The
Universal Currency Converter is useful. TOP
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4.
Do you sell to Europe (and elsewhere overseas)?
Yes.
We have many customers in Europe and Asia, as well as all over North
and South America. Our products are shipped directly to your door from
Canada or from our affiliates around the world, usually by courier or
insured postal courier.
Canada has a free trade agreement with the United States, and our products
pass through Customs for US customers as Duty-Free. TOP
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5.
What shipping options are there?
We
use UPS for our shipping, but if you have your own account with FedEx,
UPS, DHL, Purolator, TNT or some other carrier, we can arrange to ship
via that service, and bill the carriage to your account number.
We
provide a complimentary Online Tracking service
for all UPS packages we send out. TOP
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6.
Do you have a catalogue?
Many
people have asked this question. We don't publish a catalogue. But what
we do is update our web pages frequently with new images as products
become available, and updated pricing as soon as it is available.
As a service for those who don't get to surf our web site as frequently
as they might like, we offer a ListBot which will e-mail you a note
when we have new products to announce, or major changes and updates
to our web site. You can subscribe to this ListBot service from our
What's New page.
This web site is a lot quicker and easier to update than a catalogue
would be. We are always adding new items, so this is important. TOP
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our FAQ has not answered your questions, please feel free to email us your
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